Imprimer les messages du sujet "Name that car!"

Posté le 18/03/2019 à 09h30 par saab1949

Très dur...
Photo moyenne, désolé, je n'ai pas trouvé mieux ...

Posté le 18/03/2019 à 19h29 par tictoc

Bonjour

je trouve qu'elle a un petit air de SCARAB

Posté le 18/03/2019 à 19h54 par saab1949

Non,

Plus compliqué...

Posté le 18/03/2019 à 21h39 par pepe_plus

Sans chercher ni réfléchir, un coté Porsche, pas Scarab...

Le slot ça rend fou !!!

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 09h45 par saab1949

Non

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 13h05 par Grizzly

Panhard aux alentour de 1950 ?

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 13h53 par saab1949

Non, plus compliqué

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 18h13 par tictoc

TOJEIRO ?

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 18h47 par saab1949

Non
Je donnerai la réponse demain matin vers 9h.
Bonne soirée.

Posté le 19/03/2019 à 22h37 par tictoc

la couleur est celle de l'écurie Ecosse ou des Borders reivers

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 08h25 par saab1949

La photo a été prise aux USA.

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 09h33 par David Perone

C'est une anglaise non?

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 09h51 par Ju_bil

Pignatelli Type II.

Avec un nom pareil ça doit être une italienne

Ju bil

Le BraxeanSlotRing

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 10h05 par saab1949

C'est la bonne réponse.

Par contre je n'arrive pas à trouver son origine.
La seule chose que j'ai trouvé, c'est elle a couru aux USA... et c'est tout... en particulier sur le circuit de Pomona (Calofornie)... cela est assez maigre !
Donc je ne sais si elle est d'origine italienne ??

Si quelqu'un a mieux, cela m'intéresse.

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 10h11 par saab1949

Une autre très piégeuse

J'ai préparé une petites série très intéressante... je pense que vous allez chercher un moment...

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 10h42 par TeddyBear

C'est la Mercedes-Corvette, un chassis de 300SL avec un moteur de Corvette et une carrosserie rappelant la 300SLR.

Fin des 50's, début des 60's aux Etats-Unis, excellente période !

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 11h19 par saab1949

Exact

Une autre dans les mêmes années :

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 11h27 par freinetroptot

saab1949 a écrit : C'est la bonne réponse.

Par contre je n'arrive pas à trouver son origine.
La seule chose que j'ai trouvé, c'est elle a couru aux USA... et c'est tout... en particulier sur le circuit de Pomona (Calofornie)... cela est assez maigre !
Donc je ne sais si elle est d'origine italienne ??

Si quelqu'un a mieux, cela m'intéresse.

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 11h32 par saab1949

Super

Aurais tu un dossier ou un lien sur le sujet ?

Posté le 20/03/2019 à 11h57 par saab1949

J'ai trouvé cela sur le site Tam's Old Race Car Site :

This car ran at Pomona on July 8-9, 1961. It's called a "Pignatelli" and it's driven by a John Cooper.
I remember it doing fairly well. What is it? What kind of engine does it use? Who was John Cooper?
Website visitor Rod Davis offers this info on "John Cooper"

Is this the "Pignatelli"?
Ron Cummings sent me this photo & info on Barry Williams' "Porsche Special". There are differences, but also similarities, between the two cars.

Several website visitors have pointed out the Porsche wheels on the "Pignatelli", which are similar to the wheels on this car. The fender lines are similar, if not identical. The headrests are different.
Given how racecar bodywork can change over the decades, is this car possibly the "Pignatelli"?


This photo by Patrick O'Hern shows the Porsche Special at Paramount Ranch on March 9-10, 1957. It looks like the driver has moved over for under 1500cc. winner Bob Drake in Joe Lubin's Cooper Bobtail.

From Jerry Entin:
"Joe Playan thinks the (Paramount Ranch) "Porsche Special" is his Porsche 550 Spyder. He wrecked his car at Willow Springs. He subsequently took the car to Fred Ige, a fellow who was supposed to be able to fix aluminum bodies. He had a business, I believe, that was called Samo wheel alignment. He had the car for 6 months and nothing was getting done.
Joe took the car to Ernie McAfee on Sunset. Tom Bamford was the service manager. They had a guy by the last name of Carrel who worked on Ferraris and Maseratis. Joe asked him if he could get the car back together and running. He made that front end for Joe. He told Joe that the James Dean car was there and that he had used a few pieces off it to make Joe's new front end. Joe sold the car to Stan Sugarman, from Arizona.
That is Joe at Paramount Ranch. This was the first time he had driven in more than a year. In the race Jay Hills crashed into the back of Joe. He was in a Porsche Speedster, Joe believes."
Ron Cummings on the two Porsche Specials:
"The Porsche Special, top photo, has nothing to do with the Paramount Ranch photo. The Special in the upper photo belongs to a friend of mine. It came from the midwest and doesn't have a Porsche frame.
The Paramount Ranch photo could very well be Joe's first Spyder after the rebuild. However, that car is listed in the race program, March 1957, as John Porter's 550 Spyder. But Porter's car never looked like that. It was always a near-concours car. I don't think that the Paramount Ranch car is Porter's and may be, like you say, Joe's car. Could this have been a different Paramount Ranch date?"

John Cooper?
From Rod Davis:
"I knew a John Cooper in the mid to late 60s (he died in the early 70s, I believe). He had a sports car repair shop in Compton, CA, on Alondra Blvd. (I think) and raced a BRG MG Midget for his wife Bobby Cooper (Celebrity races at Long Beach Grand Prix, medium level club racer, and I last talked to her in the 80s working for Daeco Racing Fuels Wilmington, CA).
John had suffered an accident (racing?) and was handicapped and no longer drove a race car, but in one corner of the shop under an old tarp was a "Porsche looking" special of some sort. As I recall (at 64, my memories are suspect), the car resembled that which you have posted on your website. I was not "into" Porsche/VW stuff in those days so I didn't look it over too closely."
(Note: I checked the July 8-9, 1961 Pomona program on Frank Sheffield's site and the #121 John Cooper Pignatelli entry lists Compton as hometown. TM)